Comments on: Its Going To Be Very Hard For Others To Catch App Store : Jobs http://techdusts.com/2009/07/15/its-going-to-be-very-hard-for-others-to-catch-app-store-jobs/ Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:00:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Apple A Monopoly In Apps: Gone Past The Magical Figure Of 2 Billion Downloads http://techdusts.com/2009/07/15/its-going-to-be-very-hard-for-others-to-catch-app-store-jobs/#comment-968 Apple A Monopoly In Apps: Gone Past The Magical Figure Of 2 Billion Downloads Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:34:17 +0000 http://techdusts.com/?p=288#comment-968 [...] Apple App Store is growing at an enormous pace- In April they have reached a billion figure, 1.5 billion in July and now 2 billion. Quick Stats About the App [...] [...] Apple App Store is growing at an enormous pace- In April they have reached a billion figure, 1.5 billion in July and now 2 billion. Quick Stats About the App [...]

]]> By: Apps: To Be As Big As Internet In 2020 But At The Expense Of Small Developers | TechDusts http://techdusts.com/2009/07/15/its-going-to-be-very-hard-for-others-to-catch-app-store-jobs/#comment-88 Apps: To Be As Big As Internet In 2020 But At The Expense Of Small Developers | TechDusts Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:44:03 +0000 http://techdusts.com/?p=288#comment-88 [...] Last week Apple recorded a milestone of 1.5 billion downloads in just a year with a pool of 65,000 apps in its library. But experts felt that the popularity of Apple App Store(more info) is also its vulnerable point because it caters to ‘one hit wonder’ model as small and budding developers are finding it difficult to make profit from their applications. Most of the iPhone application get popular for short time and then lose traction in a day or two . But Google’s vice president Vic Gundotra has some contrasting things to say.  Apps store is a fad. Its not apps but the browser that will run the future application platform for the mobile device. [...] [...] Last week Apple recorded a milestone of 1.5 billion downloads in just a year with a pool of 65,000 apps in its library. But experts felt that the popularity of Apple App Store(more info) is also its vulnerable point because it caters to ‘one hit wonder’ model as small and budding developers are finding it difficult to make profit from their applications. Most of the iPhone application get popular for short time and then lose traction in a day or two . But Google’s vice president Vic Gundotra has some contrasting things to say.  Apps store is a fad. Its not apps but the browser that will run the future application platform for the mobile device. [...]

]]> By: Jason Belec http://techdusts.com/2009/07/15/its-going-to-be-very-hard-for-others-to-catch-app-store-jobs/#comment-74 Jason Belec Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:46:14 +0000 http://techdusts.com/?p=288#comment-74 The AppStore isn't perfect, but really, did you expect that? It is the first, and everyone thinks they know how to do it better. It's hard for developers in some sense but very liberating in others, there is no perfect solution. The AppStore is the delivery vehicle, without it those 'small' developers wouldn't have a chance. Marketing and advertising is another service all together. It will take time for all things to settle and the real pattern of what is best will appear, right now far too many things are changing dynamically to determine what is or is not working for 'developers'. Just remember what the world was like before Apple introduced the AppStore..... The AppStore isn’t perfect, but really, did you expect that? It is the first, and everyone thinks they know how to do it better. It’s hard for developers in some sense but very liberating in others, there is no perfect solution.

The AppStore is the delivery vehicle, without it those ’small’ developers wouldn’t have a chance.

Marketing and advertising is another service all together.

It will take time for all things to settle and the real pattern of what is best will appear, right now far too many things are changing dynamically to determine what is or is not working for ‘developers’.

Just remember what the world was like before Apple introduced the AppStore…..

]]> By: Krishna Santani http://techdusts.com/2009/07/15/its-going-to-be-very-hard-for-others-to-catch-app-store-jobs/#comment-67 Krishna Santani Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:33:38 +0000 http://techdusts.com/?p=288#comment-67 @Doug Hogg Thank you for giving in-depth analysis of the app world. Its eye-opener for all of us. But removing the Top 100 list from App store will hurt users the most. Apple has to devise some other plans for providing space to small developers. @Evan @urvashi In tech world you have to keep evolving yourself in order to stay ahead. Apple is not going to stay quiet and it will not easily allow anybody to pass it. @Doug Hogg Thank you for giving in-depth analysis of the app world. Its eye-opener for all of us. But removing the Top 100 list from App store will hurt users the most. Apple has to devise some other plans for providing space to small developers.
@Evan @urvashi In tech world you have to keep evolving yourself in order to stay ahead. Apple is not going to stay quiet and it will not easily allow anybody to pass it.

]]> By: urvashi http://techdusts.com/2009/07/15/its-going-to-be-very-hard-for-others-to-catch-app-store-jobs/#comment-66 urvashi Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:59:02 +0000 http://techdusts.com/?p=288#comment-66 @evan: agreed!!its tough to surpass App store market...but its not IMMPOSSIBLE:) @evan: agreed!!its tough to surpass App store market…but its not IMMPOSSIBLE:)

]]> By: Evan http://techdusts.com/2009/07/15/its-going-to-be-very-hard-for-others-to-catch-app-store-jobs/#comment-65 Evan Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:52:56 +0000 http://techdusts.com/?p=288#comment-65 I think right now the others are just slugging it out for 2nd place. It might be a while, but with the way the tech winds change, some day some other device will be the "big thing." It will be something that is a big step ahead from the iPhone, just like the iPhone was a big advancement of devices like the Palm Treo. I think then and only then will we see something pass the App Store. I think right now the others are just slugging it out for 2nd place. It might be a while, but with the way the tech winds change, some day some other device will be the “big thing.” It will be something that is a big step ahead from the iPhone, just like the iPhone was a big advancement of devices like the Palm Treo. I think then and only then will we see something pass the App Store.

]]> By: Doug Hogg http://techdusts.com/2009/07/15/its-going-to-be-very-hard-for-others-to-catch-app-store-jobs/#comment-64 Doug Hogg Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:45:33 +0000 http://techdusts.com/?p=288#comment-64 However there are problems with the iTunes App store that could result in a swing to other phones such as the Palm Pre, Blackberry or Android. Specifically, apps are all rated by the same ranking criteria regardless of price - number of downloads. This results in pressure for developers to lower their prices to boost their ranking. For example, Hero of Sparta was a $10 app, but the developer lowered the price to 99 cents and went to the top of the charts. They are doing fine, but small developers then get pushed off the bottom of 100 app chart and others never make it on. Basically it is similar to forcing all items for sale to be priced for the 99 cent Store. The problem is that many developers are not able to earn enough money to recoup their expenses, let alone make a profit. And so they will head for greener pastures and there will be a collapse in the iTunes store like the Real Estate Market collapse unless something is done. It is a fact that the average price of an app is dropping. Basically, what we have in the iTunes app store is a pricing landslide as developers attempt to get public attention by getting onto the top 100 list. The average price of apps is dropping--for charts and statistics, see http://Yappler.com/Apple-iPhone-App-Store-Stats/ A partial answer is a multi-tiered system where $10 apps are compared to other $10 apps, $5 apps to $5 apps, etc. If a developers app is at #20 on the $10 list, then he won't have to reduce the price to $1. And that will provide more breathing room at the bottom for small developers. Currently the app store values the BMW level apps and the Fiat level apps by exactly the same measure: how many were sold, and there is no Road and Track magazine or local BMW dealer to explain the difference. An additional solution is to beef up the search capability on iTune, and give it some of the power of Amazon.com. We don't see all products listed in one heap on Amazon because they have many categories. Perhaps Apple needs to do away with the top 100 overall list completely and have many sub lists like Amazon. The iTunes App store is a big success now, but developers will start to leave soon unless changes are made. I am far from the first to bring up the situation. For more posts on the subject, search Google for app store broken. However there are problems with the iTunes App store that could result in a swing to other phones such as the Palm Pre, Blackberry or Android. Specifically, apps are all rated by the same ranking criteria regardless of price – number of downloads. This results in pressure for developers to lower their prices to boost their ranking. For example, Hero of Sparta was a $10 app, but the developer lowered the price to 99 cents and went to the top of the charts. They are doing fine, but small developers then get pushed off the bottom of 100 app chart and others never make it on. Basically it is similar to forcing all items for sale to be priced for the 99 cent Store. The problem is that many developers are not able to earn enough money to recoup their expenses, let alone make a profit. And so they will head for greener pastures and there will be a collapse in the iTunes store like the Real Estate Market collapse unless something is done. It is a fact that the average price of an app is dropping.
Basically, what we have in the iTunes app store is a pricing landslide as developers attempt to get public attention by getting onto the top 100 list. The average price of apps is dropping–for charts and statistics, see http://Yappler.com/Apple-iPhone-App-Store-Stats/
A partial answer is a multi-tiered system where $10 apps are compared to other $10 apps, $5 apps to $5 apps, etc. If a developers app is at #20 on the $10 list, then he won’t have to reduce the price to $1. And that will provide more breathing room at the bottom for small developers.
Currently the app store values the BMW level apps and the Fiat level apps by exactly the same measure: how many were sold, and there is no Road and Track magazine or local BMW dealer to explain the difference.
An additional solution is to beef up the search capability on iTune, and give it some of the power of Amazon.com. We don’t see all products listed in one heap on Amazon because they have many categories. Perhaps Apple needs to do away with the top 100 overall list completely and have many sub lists like Amazon.
The iTunes App store is a big success now, but developers will start to leave soon unless changes are made. I am far from the first to bring up the situation. For more posts on the subject, search Google for app store broken.

]]> By: TechDusts http://techdusts.com/2009/07/15/its-going-to-be-very-hard-for-others-to-catch-app-store-jobs/#comment-4507 TechDusts Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:39:55 +0000 http://techdusts.com/?p=288#comment-4507 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Its Going To be Very Hard For Others To Catch App Store says Steve Jobs http://bit.ly/3yq8J (by @ksantani)</span></span> Its Going To be Very Hard For Others To Catch App Store says Steve Jobs
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]]> By: TechDusts http://techdusts.com/2009/07/15/its-going-to-be-very-hard-for-others-to-catch-app-store-jobs/#comment-4506 TechDusts Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:13:49 +0000 http://techdusts.com/?p=288#comment-4506 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Apple App Reached A Milestone: 1.5 Billion Downloads In Just One Year http://bit.ly/3yq8J (by @ksantani)</span></span> Apple App Reached A Milestone: 1.5 Billion Downloads In Just One Year http://bit.ly/3yq8J (by @ksantani)

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