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	<title>Comments on: Apple Beats Nokia To Become The Most Profitable Mobile Handset Maker In The World</title>
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		<title>By: Sadat Rahman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sadat Rahman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayank Agarwal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mayank Agarwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article says 
&quot;Apples’s Q3 Profit (from iPhone alone) – $1.6 billion&quot; and NOT Q4. These numbers come from an independent research conducted by Strategy Analytics (I have given the link in my post). You might also like to check out similar reports (with a different prospective) published by Reuters http://www.reuters.com/article/COMSRV/idUSN1051937420091110 .

I am still unclear with your second point. I dont find it related with the article. Can you please clarify? + the link you have given is prediction report published in 2005...! 

As far as Nokia suing Apple and hence forth we should calculate Apple&#039;s profit by reducing that hypothetical number (if Nokia wins the law suite) from Apple&#039;s profit - hypothetical and hence irrelevant with the current context.</description>
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&#8220;Apples’s Q3 Profit (from iPhone alone) – $1.6 billion&#8221; and NOT Q4. These numbers come from an independent research conducted by Strategy Analytics (I have given the link in my post). You might also like to check out similar reports (with a different prospective) published by Reuters <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/COMSRV/idUSN1051937420091110" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/COMSRV/idUSN1051937420091110</a> .</p>
<p>I am still unclear with your second point. I dont find it related with the article. Can you please clarify? + the link you have given is prediction report published in 2005&#8230;! </p>
<p>As far as Nokia suing Apple and hence forth we should calculate Apple&#8217;s profit by reducing that hypothetical number (if Nokia wins the law suite) from Apple&#8217;s profit &#8211; hypothetical and hence irrelevant with the current context.</p>
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		<title>By: MAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately. this article contains some serious flaws.

1. The profit for Apple was $1.67B for its fourth fiscal quarter, totally (not just iphone). Just follow the link in the article and read the first sentence. &quot;Apple® today announced financial results for its fiscal 2009 fourth quarter ended September 26, 2009. The Company posted revenue of $9.87 billion and a net quarterly profit of $1.67 billion...&quot;.

2. Gartner says that the total worldwide market is 1 B units. (http://www.gartner.com/press_releases/asset_132473_11.html). Allowing some flexible counting 16M units equates 64M per year. At 40% market share, this gives a total market size of 160M units.

However, it would fit fairly well with the US market.. It&#039;s problematic to assess the correctness of this since the most important source is not publicly available.

Also to consider, Nokia is suing Apple for using their IPRs (estimates say for up to $1B). I can&#039;t assess the likelihood of Nokia winning this but it does correspond to a major part of Apples total profits for a whole year that would be moved from Apple to Nokia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately. this article contains some serious flaws.</p>
<p>1. The profit for Apple was $1.67B for its fourth fiscal quarter, totally (not just iphone). Just follow the link in the article and read the first sentence. &#8220;Apple® today announced financial results for its fiscal 2009 fourth quarter ended September 26, 2009. The Company posted revenue of $9.87 billion and a net quarterly profit of $1.67 billion&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>2. Gartner says that the total worldwide market is 1 B units. (<a href="http://www.gartner.com/press_releases/asset_132473_11.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.gartner.com/press_releases/asset_132473_11.html)</a>. Allowing some flexible counting 16M units equates 64M per year. At 40% market share, this gives a total market size of 160M units.</p>
<p>However, it would fit fairly well with the US market.. It&#8217;s problematic to assess the correctness of this since the most important source is not publicly available.</p>
<p>Also to consider, Nokia is suing Apple for using their IPRs (estimates say for up to $1B). I can&#8217;t assess the likelihood of Nokia winning this but it does correspond to a major part of Apples total profits for a whole year that would be moved from Apple to Nokia.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayank Agarwal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mayank Agarwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually... I still couldn’t figure out that it is a mock up and not the real iPhone... anyways thanks for pointing out...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually&#8230; I still couldn’t figure out that it is a mock up and not the real iPhone&#8230; anyways thanks for pointing out&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Mayank Agarwal</title>
		<link>http://techdusts.com/2009/11/12/apple-surpassed-and-beats-nokia-to-become-the-most-profitable-mobile-handset-maker-in-the-world/#comment-2642</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayank Agarwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That wasn’t intention... The purpose was to use an image of both Nokia and iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wasn’t intention&#8230; The purpose was to use an image of both Nokia and iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: norp</title>
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		<dc:creator>norp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did you use a mockup render of something that almost looks like an iPhone instead of a real one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did you use a mockup render of something that almost looks like an iPhone instead of a real one?</p>
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